A LIVING MEMORIAL FOR

 

CHIEF MASTER SERGEANT THOMAS MOORE

 

     UNITED STATES AIR FORCE    

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

INFORMATION FROM THE WALL

 

 

CMS - E9 - Air Force - Regular 
36 year old Married, Caucasian, Male
Born on Dec 09, 1929
From BATON ROUGE, LOUISIANA
His tour of duty began on Oct 31, 1965
Casualty was on Oct 31, 1965
in BIEN HOA, SOUTH VIETNAM
Hostile, died captured
GROUND CASUALTY
Body was not recovered 
Religion
BAPTIST
Panel 03E - - Line 9
  
Photo Courtesy of his Daughter, Diane 

 

MOORE, THOMAS

Name: Thomas Moore

Rank/Branch: E6/US Air Force

Unit: 6250 Civil Engineering Squadron
  

 

Date of Birth: 09 December 1929

Home City of Record: Baton Rouge LA

Date of Loss: 31 October 1965

Country of Loss: South Vietnam

Loss Coordinates: 10400N 1070000E (YS224805)

 

Status (in 1973): Prisoner of War

Category: 1

Acft/Vehicle/Ground: Ford Truck

Other Personnel in Incident: Charles Dusing; Samuel Adams (both POW), Jasper

Page, escapee.

REMARKS: 6512 DIC-ON PRG DIC LIST

Source: Compiled from one or more of the following: raw data from U.S.

Government agency sources, correspondence with POW/MIA families, published

sources, interviews. Updated by the P.O.W. NETWORK.

SYNOPSIS: On October 31, 1965, four U.S. Air Force personnel were captured

while traveling by truck from Vung Tau to Saigon. This incident occurred on

Route 15 at grid coordinates YS224805, just on the border of Binh Hoa and

Gia Dinh Provinces of South Vietnam. The individuals involved in this

incident are SSgt. Samuel Adams, SSgt. Charles Dusing, TSgt. Thomas Moore,

and SSgt, Jasper Page.

On November 2, 1965, while being taken to a detention camp, Jasper Page,

managed to escape and return to U.S. control. It was reported that Samuel

Adams had been shot during the same escape that freed Page, but a defector

identified Adams' photo as a prisoner at a later date. CIA's analysis of

this identification has been inconclusive. The names of all three appeared

on the died in captivity list furnished by the Provisional Revolutionary

Government (PRG) in 1973 at the Paris Peace Accords. The list reflected that

they had died during December 1965, but no details were given.

When 591 Americans were released at the end of the war in 1973, Adams, Dusing

and Moore were not among them; their names were on a list. No bodies were

returned to their families, even though the Vietnamese clearly know where to

find the three men. Since that time, Vietnam has doled out handfuls of remains

as the political atmosphere seemed appropriate, but Adams, Dusing and Moore

remain unaccounted for.

The three are among nearly 2500 Americans who remain missing in Indochina.

Unlike "MIA's" from other wars, most of these men can be accounted for.

Tragically, over 8000 reports concerning Americans still in Southeast Asia have

been received by the U.S. since the end of the war. Experts say that the

evidence is overwhelming that Americans were left behind in enemy hands. It's

time we brought our men home.

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Diane Moore visits her father, Memorial Day Weekend 2005

 

From: "Moore, Nora D Ms EAMC"

To: "'info@pownetwork.org'" <info@pownetwork.org>

Subject: I wrote this last night, it came all of a sudden and i wanted to

share it

Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 08:20:37 -0400

I am the daughter of a forgotten HERO. I am the daughter of an Airman who

gave his life and his freedom for me.

In the most feeble attempts of writing this I can only hope that when

someone reads it that they attempt to understand my feelings, I can not

write for my sisters, I can not write for the other children of war, I can

however bring to the fore front the differences between Killed in Action and

Missing in Action.

There are many Americans who do not have the littlest idea of what it is

like to try to comprehend what war does to children, from the smallest

toddler to the oldest child who tries to understand why my daddy went away.

I have wonderful friends who know what it is like to loose a parent, many

whose parent was lost to heart attacks, car crashes, and suicides. These

friends and I acknowledge each other's lost and understand the loneliness of

being without mom or dad. However there are only a few of us who understand

those loses coming from war. We all share in the same questions, the same

heartaches, and the same wishes. The biggest shared question being the "What

If".

I have read so many stories from the Children of the Wall, Children of the

Vietnam War dead. The ones whose names are forever carved into black

granite. Well over 58,000 names of men and women, who stand vigil night and

day to remind those who pass in front of them That Freedom has a price, and

that price is not money, but blood of fellow Americans.

Reading stories from Vets, history and other materials is what has educated

us to believe many things about Vietnam. Some good and some bad. Movies have

done the same.

I was a young girl of 11 when my dad went into his Missing in Action status.

Later it was confirmed that enemy forces while returning to base after a

24-hour pass had captured him and three of his friends.

My dad and the others in the wrong place at the wrong time. No way to defend

themselves, nor did they have the chance.

A simple return to base that ended up a terrifying event.

Years have gone by, which in turn have turned in to decades. My sisters and

I have families of our own, and my father has grandchildren and a great

grand son. Yet there is still the man who is Missing.

I remember like other children of our time the Yellow Cab delivering the

telegram, the one that makes mom cry out a very heart-breaking sob.

I remember like others those words, We regret to Inform you...

And the other words depending on the status were either, your husband has

been Killed in Action or is Missing in Action.

This is where my story will differ from other Sons and Daughters of the

Vietnam war, except for a small number. As you see there are less that 2,000

men still listed now has Missing in Action. So that means we MIA kids are

very few, the forgotten ones.

When my dad went Missing I remember asking the big question of my 11 years.

What do you mean my daddy is missing, and why can't they find him. How do

you lose a grown up man, . This followed me all my life, even after growing

up , it is hard to understand why my dad and the other MIA's cannot be

accounted for. And it is really hard to understand if it is the men who were

last seen alive.

Year after Year, the haunting realization comes, daddy is not coming home.

Yet there is no body to bury, there is no funeral, there is not a grave to

visit, there is nothing. NO closure.

We were and are still expected to take the harsh reality of our dads Missing

in Action and to get on with our life's. And WE DID. With little of no help

from any one but our moms and each other , but the each other only came

after we were grown.

Our country was torn apart by Vietnam, our flag was burned by Americans, men

and women protested our presence in South East Asia, some dodged the draft,

and those who went to served were spat upon when they returned,. They were

called baby killers, and no one wanted any thing to do with them, no ticker

tape parades no welcome homes.

Coffins with flags draped on them returned to American soil and the children

grieved, and said good-bye to daddy.

Yet those whose bodies did not come home were never thought about except by

the families and friends. There were those who were Killed in Action bodies

not recovered or returned but evidence to the fact that they indeed were

killed. Those families are like us MIA families. They have the that same

haunting feeling, could my dad still be really alive.

Telegrams came, in the thousands, widows were made, and children grew up to

fast.

My mom got hers, and I grew up, the oldest of three girls is not easy. My

Christmas's Turned into learning how to put toys together, and wrap gives

that Santa is supposed to do.

I even learned how to change fuses at 11, and by the time I was 14 I could

change the oil in the car.

Yet I was protected somewhat by my mom, she did a great job raising my

sisters and me, the best she could do. Yet she could not stop those who told

me my dad was also a baby killer, who spat on my sisters, and me or who told

me my dad deserved everything he got.

That is hard to understand when you are a little girl, still hard for me to

understand now.

Plus mom told us to not talk about dads case, as she said it might not be

good for those men who are POW's and if daddy is a POW we don't want to

jeopardize his coming home.

Neither was it a good idea to talk with men who had been over there because

we don't what to upset them. Whether or not those men were uncles or even

cousins.

Now years later we have talked with the men who served and came home , we

learned about our dads, and we learned about Vietnam. The men were just as

glad to talk as we were to listen.

Yet there is still a difference in the MIA kid, we talk to the Vets, we

listen to them, we ask them questions and they help a lot.

We share our stories with others , but our dad's stories are as some would

like to say still to political. So not to many people will ask us to speak

at functions, yet we still hear, get over it.

We truly have no real place in the Vietnam organizations out there, and

don't get me wrong, there are a few that we belong to. Yet I can truthfully

say there is fewer that really recognizes who we are. There are those who

say that they are working towards the POW MIA issue , but only use it to

benefit them when it is needed.

No one knows what it is like to live year after year wondering where is my

dad but the MIA child, no one can even come near telling me they understand

unless it is another MIA kid.

No one but the MIA child or family member knows what the Missing Man

Formation means unless you lost your dad to a plane crash some where and his

remains were never found, or a small hand full of broken fragments comes

decades later. No on but the MIA child or family member understands the

Table Ceremony for the POW MIA , no one but the loved one who sits in

silence with a tear as the meaning is read.

To feel happiness and jealously at the same time is another feeling that is

something we deal with , happiness when another MIA is found , recovered,

and returned to his home land and to his children and loved one, jealousy

when you want so much to be standing the same way, Watching a flag draped

coffin being so gently carried to a final resting place ,wishing it was your

turn to say good-bye.

To my fellow MIA sisters and Brothers, we are very special, we are children

who have kept the eternal flame alive that our dads gave us when he became

our dad.

Our dads may have been forgotten, by the general population, and we may but

a few, but we have a voice and we have the time to make sure we continue the

legacy our moms put before us.

As this memorial day approaches we all need to remember.

Never Forget.

Diane Moore

Proud Daughter of

CMSGT THOMAS MOORE-USAF

POW-MIA unaccounted for October 31 1965

Nora Diane Moore

N.R.E.M.T.- Paramedic

EMS Educator/Lead Instructor

Hospital Education & Training

Eisenhower Army Medical Center

Ft. Gordon, Ga.

706-787-2695

Note: 12/18/2004

Thomas Moore was the only T/sgt at the time of the capture, the others were

S/sgt. Of course all of their ranks are now CMS(E9). And of course Jasper

Page is a retiree.

Also you may put my email addy on the bio <<norad65@comcast.net>>

Thanks, Diane